In this powerful episode of Mat Mentality, Pastor Willie dives deep into the story found in John 5—where Jesus encounters a man who had been lying by the Pool of Bethesda for 38 years. Through rich storytelling and spiritual insight, Pastor Willie unpacks the significance of the man’s mat—not just as a symbol of his condition but of his mindset.

What does it mean to be healed yet still holding on to your mat? What habits, identities, or excuses have we been lying on for too long? Pastor Willie challenges listeners to examine their "mat mentality" freedom and discover when Jesus says, "Take up your mat and walk."

Tune in for encouragement, revelation, and a call to rise above stagnation and step into purpose.